For the second time this year, I interviewed Valerie Plame. The occasion Saturday was the recent release of Burned, the second novel she co-wrote with Santa Fe author Sarah Lovett. In February, we talked about Blowback, their first collaboration.

Here’s the back story on Valerie: she was a CIA operative outed by the Bush administration after her husband Joe Wilson, a former diplomat, wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times, What I Didn’t Find in Africa, that is, nuclear materials bound for Iraq. She let the world know about it in her non-fiction book, Fair Game, My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House — well, except for the parts blacked out by the CIA. (By the way, the CIA gets to read her fiction before it is published.)

Now Valerie, who lives with her family in Santa Fe, uses her insider knowledge for spy thrillers. Her main character is Vanessa Pierson, “a younger, smarter version” of Valerie, she says. Her nemesis is Bhoot. She has a love interest in David Khoury, a colleague.

Jay Moore, of Moby Dickens Bookshop in Taos, asked me to do the honors. (The first in February was for SOMOS, the lit society of Taos.) Naturally, I agreed.

A friend savvy about politics wrote me: Valerie’s a smarty. I hoped to come up with smart enough questions for her to answer. I read the Burned, took notes, and decided to focus on the novel’s creation before delving into politics. I didn’t plan to rehash the Bush administration’s shenanigans, which took place over ten years ago.

We agreed to open up questions to the audience afterward, certainly a brave move, but Valerie has been in much tougher situations I am certain.

It was SRO upstairs in the bookshop. My quick assessment was this was mostly an older, politically interested crowd, and likely leaning toward the left.

As I asked my questions, Valerie was friendly, gracious, and yes, smart. I see why she was fit for espionage. She makes people feel comfortable.

At my prompting, she talked about Christian extremists in the U.S. military (prompted by a character in Burned), dealing with hostage situations (just that morning an American journalist was killed during a failed rescue attempt), the mid-term elections, the Obama administration, national security, and so on. Her character, Vanessa, seems to have to prove herself frequently. Was that Valerie’s experience in the CIA? Yes.

It was a pleasant and informative conversation on a Saturday afternoon. Later, she signed my copy with this inscription: “To Joan thank you for making it fun & easy!”

So what did I think about Burned? As I told Valerie, I like it better than the first, which of course, was an introduction to Vanessa and those around her. Burned is more complex and action-packed. It starts with a bomb ignited outside the Louvre in Paris and ends, well, you’ll have to read it yourself.